dg sinking with last couple pc's?

All these four houses are great and relatively equal. They all have their share of attractive, hot, smart girls. Don't go by social media pictures. DG, Chi O and adpi are all great houses. Alpha Phi is also a great house with some really cool, nice girls. They are fun lloving and party hard and there's nothing wrong with that. But they have some really mean girls who think they are better than others and do some wrong and hateful things to prove that. But that's not majority of the house. It's not their ranking that's slipping but their reputation, and if they don't watch out their ranking will follow. Any of the four would be a great house to belong to!

Totally agree! Any of the four are fine! Go where your heart takes you :) that's Ofcourse if u have a choice cause it's not just your call. I think they need to just cap numbers and leave it entirely up to the recruits to decide where they want to go! What's the purpose of selecting and excluding when the stated goal is sisterhood?!

Welcome to America:) You weren't talking about looks but that's what they're talking about! Cause it's bout the looks here! :(
The greek system is brutal on first gen. My advice is to keep your self esteem intact and don't rush. It's not what most want to hear but it's the brutal truth. Join clubs and other organizations that will welcome you with open arms and will gain from your life experience.
Then again, if you're a European beauty you'll get into the top houses! The definition of beauty is very Anglo. Let's just say there's still some catching up to do lol.
But, it's great that you even considered it and reached out!

Nope. Rankings are purely looks based. And how white a house is. PNM's come in so biased by sites like this that they basically rank all houses as they are on these sites during the first day of fall formal. If people didn't come in biased it would be more spread out. -former RC

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Ghedawa122, you posed an interesting question but I fear you entirely missed the point of how best to go through the recruitment process. The entire idea of rankings when each house is unique and full of great sisters is totally outdated and truly has no place at Cal. I strongly suggest keeping an open mind and simply going out to meet people at as many houses as you can. You will know when you meet the right group as you will immediately feel at 'home'. Rankings have zero to do with finding a 'home' for the next 3 years. I am also not sure why you only picked on a few houses? I also suggest that between now and spring that you try to meet as many people in the system as you can and I almost guarantee that this process will steer you in the right direction (it might be that you end up at one of the places you mentioned, but my hope is that you find your true home!). PLEASE FORGET ABOUT RANKINGS! Fall recruitment had a record number of pnms attend and for the most part all the houses got sizable classes which is great for the system. Not sure what will happen in the spring but I hope you have some good options. Best of luck to you!

Yeah that sounds great but be prepared to take a lower house. That's the reality my friend :(

Bear, I just read what you wrote again. I hope you read it again too as what so upset me is that on one hand you are talking about apartheid and then on the other hand you are talking about dropping because you didn't want to be in certain houses. As a minority I am absolutely not sure how the ladies in the other houses that you dismissed would feel reading what you wrote. I believe that it is people that share your views that make the system worse for minorities not better. Yes I am not a minority and so cannot truly walk a mile in your shoes. But that doesn't mean I can't empathize with your plight and experience. I just can't reconcile you dropping out as in any way helping yourself or other people like you. I am very confused to say the least. How are you any different than a non minority that didn't get their top piks? Frankly you had an opportunity to be part of a system and you turned that opportunity down. Not sure you helped your cause at all. But after rereading what you wrote yet again I'm not sure what your cause is other than yourself!

I agree ^ it's what Gandhi used. Called passive resistance. Don't cooperate with an unjust system.
If you feel that you were not given a fair shake then don't give them your support! It doesn't matter if she would've been happy or not at the house she got or whether she picked only certain houses. The bigger issue here is different. The fact that it was not a level playing field is not right and she chose to not support that system. I fully get it! Those on top need to examine this issue instead of arguing and denying it. If she took what she got and everyone did that there will be status quo of a broken system! The reason why there's even so much discussion about changes that should be made was due to the large number of great ladies who dropped out this fall!

I think all the discussion here is good and positive. I have to think long and hard about whether non participation can solve anything ever. How will anything ever change if people drop and never stand up to vote. You don't get to vote on change from the outside. I realize you were hurt by an imperfect system. But what system is ever perfect? Prior generations of women fought hard to be heard on a variety of topics in many arenas so that women today have choices. I respect your choice to be an independent but know you did it for yourself and in no way are you helping generations to come! How can anything change without smart articulate minorities in the system who are willing to stand up and be counted. I hate to say it but you lost your vote when you left. Change is never easy or comfortable. Look up stories about women that were in the first classes at previously all male schools and what they experienced. Nothing worthwhile is ever easy and who ever advised you to quit did you a huge disservice and a huge disservice to our community. I know by how passionately you feel about your experience that would have been a wonderful change agent. So sorry to not have met you at a panhel meeting rather than on a message board!