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by: Mom

Hi everyone. I am the parent of a PNM at Auburn. We are from New England with NO experience with sororities. My daughter always knew she wanted to go through recruitment but had no idea what was involved. She got sidetracked this summer with health issues and surgeries. Up until last week we thought she was going to defer her enrollment a year but lo and behold she got the last minute approval to attend school this year.

So she is all moved in and started recruitment. She is having a blast.

At orientation (she was in the last group) they told the girls recommendations were not necessary and if a chapter likes them they will help them get the necessary recommendation. So my daughter didn't pursue recommendations. Now the girls in her recruitment group are telling her that if she doesn't have recs by the second day she will automatically be cut.

True?

I am so far away and the thought of her being released the first couple of days with nothing to do the rest of the time is worrying me.

I wish I found you all sooner!

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#1  by: AuMom   
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Try to relax until tomorrow after the first round is over and the PNMs receive invites back. Some sororities require recommendations more than others. It also depends on the information your daughter submitted to panhellenic. Hopefully she included all her awards, honors, etc that may get her noticed.

Mom, its going to be a long week for everyone, regardless! Stay strong and positive for your daughter. Her attitude can take her a long way! Also remind her to talk to her Pi Chi with any concerns, they are there to help.

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#2  by: Truth   
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She will not be cut because of no rec. On the flip side many legacies get cut and end up in a different sorority from their mom. So you see, it is more how she clicks with the girls. If she does get dropped, the Pi Chis are good to help with this. Also, don't listen to all the tier stuff about sororities. Some girls get the sororities of their dreams and are miserable and some get a bid from one they did not want and end up loving it. Auburn is not a school where you have to be Greek to have a great experience.

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#3  by: kit   
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What you say about recs may be true to some degree I'm sure. They help certainly, but from our family experience straight from the girls mouths, if a sorority wants you they will get you a rec if at all possible. Some I know had alums ready for that purpose...to write recs that week. Maybe they contact alums from the girls area to check her out, I don't know, but they did write recs during recruitment in the past. Now all houses may not do this and maybe things have changed over the past few years, but I have known girls that went to high schools in the supposedly wrong zip code or from small country schools with NO recs at all and pledge top sororities. Now granted, the sorority may have really wanted them, but our most recent experience with recruitment last year was that the ones the girls had recs for cut them and the ones they had no recs for did not, but it all worked out. There is truth in what you say for sure, get all the recs you can, but we have seen too many quirky things go on with recruitment to say with no recs you will be dropped. I just want this mom to know recs are not required. I just want that mom to calm down. Been there.

By: kit
by: MeAug 13, 2017 1:24:38 PM

She has every reason to not calm down. Do you think her daughter who knows no one is so extraordinary that they'll invite her back to second round just from talking to her for a couple of minutes versus girls they already know or who they got to know and pair with similar interest girls because of their recs? Sure there is the occasional anomaly and sororities have alumnae waiting to write a last minute rec when they want to issue a no rec bid, but they had to get to preference. That really doesn't happen to anyone but the most extraordinary PNMs against all odds. Odds are this girl isn't one of those. She may have options left by pref but definitely not as good as if she'd bothered to get them. Too many other overly qualified girls who had them. So stop giving false hope. This is the way it is. She needs to be prepared for the truth.

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#4  by: Nope   
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I'm sorry but the people above are trying to make you feel better but it's just not true. There are only a couple sororities that will do this and they are the ones that local girls typically don't want to pledge so they need the members. They are great groups with great girls and your daughter would absolutely find friends there and enjoy greek life. But under no circumstance should you or her think she can get any bid she wants without recs. She will need to be totally open minded and give any sorority that wants her an honest chance even if she isn't feeling it during rush. It's very stressful and some girls in some sororities just aren't great rushers but that doesn't mean they won't be good friends later. Southern rush is COMPETITIVE so she, and every other girl, will be lucky to get any bid. But not having recs is honestly a huge disadvantage and anyone who tells you differently is trying to soften the blow.

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#5  by: Auburnsorority   
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If your daughter had health issues and was able to make it to college this Fall, that alone is great! I know lots of heavily involved happy girls that chose to get involved in other campus organizations that made tons of friends and flourished. Recruitment week is very stressful even for girls from the "right" zip code, plenty of recs and with friends at Auburn. Sometimes girls that are unknown end up doing great in rush. The long hours and slips of paper that they consider as rejection will wear them mentally down. It might sound silly but after all the tears and stress of recruitment week at least 90+ percent of the girls will tell you they love their sorority ( even if it wasn't their first choice). Her health should be the priority . Welcome to the Auburn family, you'll be glad she is here!

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#6  by: Sorry   
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I'm going to be straight up with you about this because I went through recruitment thinking the same exact thing, and it's honestly what they tell all the girls. I'm going to start by saying I had above a 4.0 and was very involved in clubs in my high school, but I got dropped after the second round.
There are a couple of things that she might be involved with that sometimes help girls stay in such as being a dancer or a model or playing sports or just being great at talking to total strangers but a lot of sorties at Auburn have a lot of legacies as well as girls with recommendations almost always inviting those girls back for a second round because "sisterhood." So some of the really great girls without recommendations can get dropped.
Now I am in no way saying you're going to get a call from your daughter tom morrow morning saying she got dropped from recruitment, there are always girls that go through without any recommendation letters that receive a bid. Just don't be surprised when she doesn't have a full party list. Auburn panhellenic really should make a bigger deal about the them instead of misleading the PNMs.
If she does get dropped remind her how great an opportunity COB is which starts 24 hours after bid day. Honestly getting dropped doesn't mean a sorority hates you it can be the difference of a girl rating you a 4 instead of a 5 or talking to a girl she doesn't mesh really well with. Formal recruitment is stressful, they have to drop 100+ girls a round.

By: Sorry
#7  by: Ok   
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There are several sororities that if she really clicked with a girl they will FIND HER A REC by the end of the week. Happens so many times. Even if she is cut from houses many houses to continuous ongoing bidding and she could receive a bid as soon as the day after bid day. As long as she made a good first impression she will be completely fine. I promise she will still be considered. Recs are nice but some girls who have them could have been rude or disinterested & she could potentially take their spot the next day.

By: Ok
by: ...Aug 13, 2017 9:34:41 PM

Actually it's rare. Usually no rec means an automatic first round cut. Sorry.

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#8  by: Mom   
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She only got five invites back, so what you all said was true.

By: Mom
by: 5Aug 14, 2017 9:46:48 AM

She only needs one bid

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by: ^^^Aug 14, 2017 9:55:10 AM

Good for her! Lots of broken hearts today even for girls with multiple recs and connections at houses. Keep encouraging her to stick with it and see what happens.

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by: AULegacyMomAug 14, 2017 1:24:49 PM

I know of several outstanding girls who got less than 8 invites back this morning. It's not a personal thing, and sometimes it's not even a rec thing. It's a numbers thing. Sororities usually have to invite their legacies back, and some of these sororities have HUGE numbers of legacies. My daughter, who had recs to every sorority, got less than 8 herself, and I told her to forget about the 10 she didn't get and focus on the ones she did get. It doesn't matter how many are on the list today because in the end, you only need one!

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by: Lucky Aug 14, 2017 10:08:27 PM

She can only pledge one!

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#9  by: Its   
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It's not personal! Rush is something that requires preparation. Panhellenic is doing PNMs a big disservice telling them they don't need recs. I think they don't want to seem exclusive or discourage anyone but it is simply not true.

But, with all that said, all is not lost. She still has 5. And you can only pledge one!

By: Its
#10  by: Update?   
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How is she doing?

By: Update?
by: ...Aug 15, 2017 7:29:37 PM

Yes, please update us! All thinking about her and you!

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by: MomAug 16, 2017 10:19:17 AM

She is down to two now. Trying to stay positive!

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by: another momAug 17, 2017 11:57:51 AM

hope everything is still going well...my fingers are crossed for you..any update?

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