truth for PNM’s
by: srat memberif you’re a pnm rushing in the fall, my advice is this: get off this site. i know that everyone is telling you not to look at ranks because it’ll give you a warped perspective of the recruitment process, which is valid, but look at it this way: there’s probably a 90% chance of you ending up in a bottom or mid house. no matter how hot or accomplished you are, every pnm that’s rushing is just as qualified as you, if not more. i went into recruitment thinking that id end up in an upper mid, maybe lower mid house at the lowest. i got completely shocked by how pretty, smart, and accomplished all of the other pnm’s were, and only got back a few mid houses and all of the bottom houses for round 1. i ended up in a bottom house, which i know is the house that i would be happiest in, but my first few months of being a new member were ruined because i was convinced that i was in a “bad” house and that everyone was looking down on me. i was all over greekrank for the few months before recruitment, and was convinced that these ranks had a huge impact on your experience. in reality- nobody actually cares, and these “ranks” have nothing to do with your actual social standing- it only influences the frats you pair with and have functions with, but if you’re only rushing for male attention you’re in it for the wrong reasons. my advice is to get off this site and forget everything you’ve seen here, because it WILL ruin your recruitment experience. i had multiple friends who made decisions based off of ranking and tier, and ended up in a house that wasn’t the best fit for them, and they regret not choosing the bottom house. being in a bottom house is perfectly fine and arguably better than being in a top house when you don’t have people in your ear telling you that you’re dumber, uglier, and less desirable because of something as insignificant as your sorority affiliation. go into the recruitment experience with an open mind and neutral attitude toward every house, and make decisions based on how you ACTUALLY feel, not how other people told you to feel.
Commentby: doubletruthJul 2, 2024 7:50:30 AM
I disagree. Majority of the girls coming into UF are bright. They will read this site and take some of it in, but they don't believe it all. They can tell all of the snark and nastiness.
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#2 by: 24gator
Let's get this out of the way.
1. There has been and will always be ranks. Some base ranks on looks and social while others base it on gpa, involvement, and awards. The fact is there has been and always will be ranks. To some pnms it matters how a group is ranked and to others it does not. As a pnm, you have to figure out how rankings matter to you. No one can tell you what to do or how to base your decisions. That is your call.
2.To make a blanket statement that a pnm will likely end up in a mid or bottom sorority is pretty sad. I don't know what each sorority judges on and I don't know you as a pnm. Bring your best game face and go through the process. Just know that you do not choose the sorority until that final round.
3. I am in a highly desired house and I will say that in being in this house I see that some people give me more respect. I will also say that other people really don't care that I am a member of this group at all. I am not sure why I was chosen to be in this group over another pnm because many pnms could have been a good fit. The house is large and diverse. I did not have anything more than the next pnm from what I could tell. I met so many great girls during recruitment. Obviously things just aligned for me.
4.PNMS need to remember and need to realize there are some mean girls on here ready to tear down some great houses. All houses are solid. There are so many types of girls in each house and they all bring greatness to their organization.
by: idkJul 2, 2024 10:26:50 AM
i think it’s fair to acknowledge that the vast majority of pnm’s will end up in a bottom or mid house, because it’s statistically true. there’s only 3-4 “top” houses, in comparison to 15 mid and bottom houses, and a majority of the girls chosen by the top houses have connections to active members or legacies. if you were lucky enough to be offered a bid to one of those houses just based off of your looks and personality, that’s great. but it’s unfair to pretend that those houses are realistic or attainable for the average pnm. if you’re the typical pnm without these advantages, then yes- getting into one of those houses is pretty unlikely. i would rather have gone into recruitment knowing that and not being disappointed when i was dropped immediately by the “highly desired” houses. it’s not a mystery that the concept of a tier system exists- my point is that i would’ve rather gone through recruitment without knowing anything about it, because for the pnm’s that will inevitably end up in a “less desirable” house, it’s hard to feel excited about a new sisterhood that you’ve only ever read negative things about.
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#3 by: sigma ligma
UF greek life cares about ranks a lot more than most other schools. As much as we like to think they don't matter, they do in some cases. For example, the top 5 social houses (KD, DDD, ADPI, ZTA, DG) have 10x the opportunity for date functions and socials than anyone else.
However, I believe that social ranking is just one part of it. If you find yourself more academically focused, you can rank houses based on their GPAs and involvement. Some of those top 5 social houses rank near the bottom of GPA (DDD, DG, ZTA). Some socially "low ranking" houses are near the top (AEPhi, Phi Mu). Do research, talk to people before rush who have an idea of the "vibe" of each house.
I'm in a fraternity at UF and can say that tier does matter for social events, but for sisterhood/brotherhood it could not matter less. 90% of your time is spent with your sisters/brothers in non-party settings, so make sure you find people that you actually like regardless of social standing. The last thing you want is to be around a group of people you can't stand and pay $3k+ a semester to do so.
Overall, be informed about anything you do in life so you can make the best decision possible. Just be sure to look at more ways to criticize a house other than their social standing alone.
by: OOSJul 5, 2024 10:30:54 AM
by: ^Jul 9, 2024 1:47:57 PM
#4 by: gates
Recruitment is a funnel. If you think about it, so is life. It's connections, looks, what you bring to benefit the organization and then maybe your grades/activities. Yes, things should be more transparent when you register, but you know they are not going to tell you this. There will still be some girls that land in sororities without connections or looks etc., but that is not the norm.
#5 by: yeah
For the most part, I'd agree...if you allow someone to convince you that you have to be in a certain group of houses or else you are "less than", then your entire recruitment experience will be devastating starting the first day when you don't get all these houses on your list...it's statistically near impossible based on the record number of girls this year and every house has only so many spaces to fill. You will set yourself up to question your worth if you are comparing your houses against some anonymous troll's list...just ignore the noise, skip this site, don't look at ranks, don't listen to girls in your tent or in line...STAY IN A BUBBLE!!!
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by: truthJul 2, 2024 6:59:39 AM
i think you’re completely wrong- they’re also super impressionable and coming into an environment that’s completely new to them. they’re looking for sites like this to give them advice on what’s “right”, and at the end of the day everyone just wants to fit in. if they find a site that outlines which houses are “good” and “bad”, you’re gonna believe it if you don’t know any better
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