ranks?
by: TruthLooking for a bunch of different opinions here. Not just one set of ranks. Anyone?
#1by: Girls and guys
Girls are harder to rank. Everyone is solid here but there are really only 2 groups separating right now.
Girls top
PhiMu and DPhiE > KD, AOll, ZTA, AXiD, GPhiB
Girls mid
Any none Greek with Greek friends.
Girls bottom
Anyone not associated with Greek life.
Explanation: DPhiE and PM have both been here since the 80s.. the next oldest sorority is gamma phi beta in 2008. They have so much history and alumni support its hard to compare them to other groups here. KD and AOll both came after gamma phi and are pretty popular while ZTA and AXiD are new but competing with everyone easily.
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Guys are different. You can look at it a bunch of different ways. There are 12 groups that can be 3 groups of 4 or 4 groups of 3.
If you don't value Greek week and HoCo and other non philanthropy or community events. Just valuing philanthropy pull rep etc. In no order in groups.
Top group of 4
KS DTD PKP SAE
Mid group of 4
SNu KA DX DSP
Lower group of 4
SP TKE AEPi OXi
If you look at it 4 of 3 using same values... In no order in groups.
Top group of 3
KS PKP SAE
Up,Mid group of 3
DTD DX KA
Lo,Mid group of 3
SNu DSP SP
Lower group of 3
TKE AEPi OXi
If you're the kind of guy that values meaningless popularity contests or competition(intramural football, basketball, etc., HoCo and Greek Week) and don't use it as an excuse to party then you'd look at ranks differently... In no order.
Top group of 4
KS DTD SNu KA
Mid group of 4
SAE DX PKP DSP
Lower group of 4
SP TKE AEPi OXi
In 4 groups of 3...
Top group of 3
KS DTD SNu
Up,Mid group of 3
KA PKP SAE
Lo,Mid group of 3
DX DSP SP
Lower group of 3
TKE AEPi OXi
When it comes to involvement and competition Sigma Nu Delts and Kappa Sig(KS to a much less extent) all have the numbers and pull to make a run for winning. Also outside of competition their social lives and other areas are solid (SNu to a much less extent). Pi Kapp could be higher if they weren't in trouble, which they have a history of. As of now they are the oldest fraternity on campus and maybe the oldest continuous fraternity for awhile until theta chi can recharter. That carries a lot of weight. KA DSP OXI AEPi are all new. Still growing but KA and DSP have been successful while it's too early to judge OXi or AEPi. DX and SAE are rising fast and throw pretty good events together.
Comment#2by: Girls and guys
#3by: Yeah
AOll KD and Gamma Phi all have just as good of history and rep as DPhiE and PM. Other than that I can agree.
ZTA and AXiD are both really really good obviously and growing fast. Sororities will likely expand if Greek life stabilizes.
Top(no one is bottom here)
PM DPhiE GPB AOll KD>ZTA AXiD
(Gap is closing fast)
As for guys that dude did the absolute most.
Top
Kappa Sigma, (when they return) Pi Kapp, Delta Tau, SAE, DX
All of these have a say in being considered top and maybe you might add SNu or KA and drop someone or whatever. KS PKP SAE and DTD obviously have numbers advantages but DX has joints and cool guys.
DX,SAE,KA,SNu,DSP,SP all have social events and cool guys. SAE needs to get the popularity but have good social lives and are cool dudes. My friends in KA remind me a lot of friends in KS. They are decent guys with a solid name. Sigma Nu is called "try hards" only because they care about winning events. I don't think that's such a bad thing? It doesn't hurt. SP is super small but they always have events always have leadership opportunities and are actually decent guys.
TKE OXi and AEPi are new and need time to grow.
by: my opinion.
aoll pm
dphie gphib kd
zta axid
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ks
pkp(the trouble hurts but they'll be good this semester)
Dtd
Sn
Sae(their joints are good but need more consistency)
Delta sig(they are very under rated.
Dx
Ka
Sp
tke
aepi
oxi
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by: Wow
This person above me has no idea what they're talking about.
Sorority ranks are dumb, it's like splitting hairs.
I guess I can agree with your guy ranks? But personally SN and D-SIG are too high.
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#4by: question
#5by: Truth
KS PKP DTD
SAE SNu DX
KA DSP SP
TKE AEPI OXI
We all know Pi Kapp is going to retake that top spot. Too much history and pull for them not to. KS and DTD will always get hate but we all know they are top.
SAE and DX have great social lives but need to be more I volved. The opposite can be said for SNu great involvement but anemic social lives.
KA Delta Sig and Sigma Pi are great options if you want to go Greek.
by: Sigma Nu
#6by: truth
everyone is going to have their opinions on ranks, but what needs to be said, that hasn't been talked about, is of hazing killing Greek life for Greeks here.
we cant table at orientation anymore, we had 2 charters of good fraternities revoked, Pi kapp is suspended, most fraternities here have been suspended or even had previous charters revoked and revived at least once, rush numbers are down, and some groups are getting too selective.
greek life will continue to shrink unless we convince everyone that every group is a good choice, we get less selective and actually use pledge ship to help thee people grow and flourish, and we have a good recipe to get back on track and grow again.
kappa sigma, pi kappa phi(suspended), (pi kappa alpha,RIP), (theta chi, RIP), delta tau delta, sigma alpha epsilon
these 6, now 4, groups had good history and great guys recruits who all raged and pulled well. these 4 now will b solid for awhile to come now. as you can see, 2 are dead and one is suspended because of hazing. no one is invincible.
sigma nu, delta chi, kappa alpha, delta sigma phi, sigma pi, tau kappa epsilon, theta xi, alpha epsilon pi
sigma nu wins a lot of events and likes to compete between Greeks, delta chi has tons of joints with fraternities like sae and more, kappa alpha is always competitive athletically and have good pull, delta sig always has events and philanthropic events, sigma pi also has tons of involvement and social events. everyone has something going for them.
#7by: Honestly
As someone who is not apart of greek life but is around it the majority of the time, I feel like I can give an honest opinion as to where the "tiers lay."
Sorority Tiers
Top: DPhiE, KD, Phi Mu
Middle: AOPi, ZTA
Bottom: AXiD, GPhi
Fraternity Tiers
Top: Theta Chi, DTD, Kappa Sig
Middle: KA, SAE, SNu
Bottom:Delta Chi, Delta Sig, TKE, everyone else
by: Umm
ZTA is good but they are definitely not a top sorority. They are at best middle but that’s it.
Real ranking:
1st- KD
2nd- DPhiE (Phi Mu and DPhiE fight for this spot)
3rd- Phi Mu
4th- AOII (if ZTA got better PCs they could get ahead)
5th- ZTA
6th- GPhiB (AXiD is slowly getting better so this might change)
7th- AXiD
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by: Tf
Who tf is ATO? Does KSU even have an ATO and if so when did come on campus cuz I’ve never heard about them
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by: Girls and guys
In other words in terms of valuing fun, brotherhood, philanthropy, community service, etc. There are 5 groups that excell.
-Kappa Sigma has pull with a lot of different groups and maintain solid numbers. 3rd oldest fraternity with solid history. Also have a few philanthropy and community service events that are popular.
-Delta Tau Delta is a mixed bag, they have a bad rep with some groups but have other groups who obsess over them. New 2 oldest current group with decent history. Also very involved in the community and philanthropy. Great grades too.
-Sigma Alpha Epsilon came from Southern poly with decent guys and have grown by making friends with other groups(DX) and throwing big joints. Also are tied for 3rd oldest continual current fraternity including time at poly. Need to be more consistent.
-Pi Kappa Phi usually have the biggest party of the year but have been suspended a year. Theyll have enough guys to probably be the second or third biggest fraternity with a lot of good history here and strong alumni network. They're primed to recover very strong. Involved with community but not so much philanthropy and get In trouble a lot.
Honorable mentions:
-Delta Chi has had solid joints as well as events on their own. They have been involved but don't raise too much or do as much as others in the community. If you end up here you won't be disappointed socially or philanthropically.
-Kappa Alpha has the name like SAE has and been at Kennesaw longer, Howe er SAEs joints as well as riff raff puts them over KA for now BUT KA has been very solid socially and their pull is solid. They are lacking with philanthropy but community involvement and grades are great.
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If you value competition more and don't want to do too much outside of that...
-Kappa Sigma: you'd think they'd be more competitive being as popular and as numerous as they are but they legitimately don't care too much. Occasionally theyll win HoCo or greekweek but usually compete and win in several intramural leagues. All the other stuff said above keeps them here.
-Delta Tau Delta is again a mixed bag. They've had some trouble with the school as of late but are very athletic and occasionally win HoCo/greekweek. But again inconsistent and mixed bag. But history helps them here.
-Sigma Nu is athletic, very competitive and consistent. Of course less dominant athletically but still occasionally win. A lot of history at poly for them and are under rated. Outside of grades community involvement and competition they are lacking though but dominance in HoCo and greekweek can't be over looked.
-Kappa Alpha is athletic and competitive. Their name carries some weight in this state and they do have some solid guys. Another often overlooked groups set to shine now that theta chi and Pike are gone.
Honorable mentions:
Pi Kappa Phi and Delta Sigma Phi: both have too many guys not to Be mentioned.
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