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by: nervous

my mom hired me a recruitment coach as my part of my christmas gift, and im meeting her for the first time this week. i know she's an alum, but if she isnt impressed by me yet will that stop me from getting into her chapter, or other good ones?

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#1  by: Um   
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What in all hell is a recruitment coach? This isn't Alabama Greek life isn't that intense here lol

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by: nervousJan 7, 2018 5:07:07 PM

my grades weren't very good, and my mom's chapter plus some of her friends' push grade cuts through if they have recommendation letters. This lady is helping me get those for all the chapters, and on how to answer questions and such, so hopefully my grades don't have as big of an impact.

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#2  by: Really?   
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If you don’t have decent grades simply put you will get cut.

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#3  by: Honey No   
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Oh wow.

Honestly rec letters don't mean much here. This is not Alabama or Texas or IU. Being a legacy would help with poor grades in some chapters (not Theta or Chi O), but I doubt a recommendation letter would help you, unless the person writing it was well known to the chapter. One year a PNM was the relative or family friend of someone on our national exec board and had poor grades so she reached out to us. This PNM still did not get a bid. Plus, if you're getting recommendation letters from people you don't know, they will not be personal and it will show.

And I don't know what kind of coaching she's giving you, but if you haven't learned how to communicate with people in the last 18 years, you aren't going to learn in five days. If your grades are really bad, maybe try for KKG if you don't like the chapters you're invited back to, but this is very much overkill for Ohio State and is a waste of money. I'm sorry.

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#4  by: Good chapters?   
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What do you mean "good" chapters? A good chapter should be one that's right for you. Don't come to our recruitment with your nose so high in the air that you think you're better than any sorority here. It will show and you will be humbled. Especially as a grade risk that needs a recruitment coach to learn how to answer basic questions.

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by: nervousJan 7, 2018 7:57:33 PM

"good" from the aspect of selective during recruitment, also I didn't mean to offend anyone on here. I guess I didn't realize I hit a nerve that this "was a waste of money". Technically so is buying clothes that aren't already in your closets, manicures, and haircuts if you don't normally have those, yet most chapters will require it.

So without you knowing how much my mom spent, it seems very rude to hold her gift, to help me prepare, against me. Especially when that wasn't even my question.

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by: ^Jan 7, 2018 8:05:34 PM

When I rushed, I didn't buy new clothes, get a new haircut, or get a manicure either. I didn't need any of that to find a house. And I'm not saying it would be a waste of money at Bama, I'm saying it's a waste of money at OSU, especially if you're already a legacy. If you need a coach to get into a "selective" house, you aren't going to have a fun time in those houses. And no one wants a try-hard in their chapter.

Best of luck, but you're setting yourself up for disappointment. You have a good reason to be nervous.

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#5  by: wut   
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If your GPA is not a 3.0, you WILL get cut from all or majority of the houses. Even though the requirement is a 2.5, that does not mean each nationals' houses require that either. Sometimes it is a 2.7 or 2.8. And if you need a recruitment coach, I do not think it is worth going through if you need to figure out what to say. You do not really get a say in who you want. They choose you. Also having a recruitment coach telling you what to say is making you seem superficial. The last thing you want is to say the wrong things and end up in the wrong house. You want to find people with your values, not what a recruitment coach thinks what your values are!

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#6  by: Good luck   
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All of these comments are so harsh. I wish you the best of luck. Be yourself and connect with girls and you’ll have a shot despite your grades.

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by: OkJan 7, 2018 10:18:57 PM

Emphasis on “be yourself”.

Which you shouldn’t need a coach for.

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by: nervousJan 8, 2018 5:24:02 AM

thank you so much, a lot of these have been really rough. To put it all out there, so those who have been unkind realize.

I had good grades in highschool, got into OSU with a 31 on my ACT (which I think is pretty normal), but my grandma passed away in late October, so I was trying to split my time between campus and my family too much. She's part of why my mom got me the recruitment coach (all of $250, less than the difference in dues at some houses) becayse my grandma was greek and was the one who had encouraged me, was going to go on a little shopping date, and such, but her health got bad very quickly. Hopefully for those who are confused, why I'm nervous with my 2.9 can now understand why I was looking for a little wiggle room by getting rec letters, and being well prepared.

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by: ^Jan 8, 2018 5:58:13 PM

While I'm sorry about your grandmother, you'll find that a lot of PNMs have a similar story, whether it's their own illness, a loss of a loved one, or other circumstances. Plenty of PNMs even have to miss a day of recruitment because of these things. However, your grades are what they are and if a chapter has a 3.0 cutoff, you will be cut regardless of a recommendation letter, unless the writer has a strong connection to the chapter. A 2.9 really isn't that bad though and won't get you cut from most chapters unless you don't fit in with the chapter anyways.

I think what other posters were trying to say is that:
1) Recommendation letters are mostly meaningless at OSU
2) Hiring a coach to help you with questions makes you seem fake and you could end up in a chapter that doesn't fit your personality because of it(but more likely the coaching won't help at all because recruitment starts so soon)
3) The fact that you already seem to have written off chapters as beneath you is a huge red flag. And if you need a coach to help you sneak into selective chapters, you'll be miserable once you realize you don't fit into those chapters. If you did fit in, your grades and coaching wouldn't have mattered.

Honestly, I think you'd be a good fit in KKG as a colonizing member if you don't make into your legacy house or the houses you think are "good." A 2.9 wouldn't rule you out at all and they need girls with money.

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by: nervousJan 8, 2018 6:20:56 PM

"good" was just me describing competitive and trying to have enough options for me to choose from that would be 'good' fod me. besides the ones ive heard of with poor sisterhood, im very open to all. and im getting rec letters for all.

I appreciate the advice on kappa, but being from UA, i dont think id like to join there unless it was much different. so many girls my sisters' age went greek here and they were very clicky.

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#7  by: Buck   
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I'm confused-if you're a freshman, how in the world did you get into OSU with not very good grades? Unless you're a highly reunited athlete, OSU Main campus has become quite selective, this is not 1980.

Regardless, good luck with recruiting, and be open to all possibilities. To do otherwise would be a disservice to yourself and the sororities.

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#8  by: Kentucky   
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I'm curious Kappa national used to have pretty stringent grade requirements, even for colonies. My sister was a Kappa at Butler. Has that changed?

By: Kentucky
by: NPC/PHAJan 10, 2018 6:08:47 PM

Generally speaking, low grades at OSU are different than low grades for the sorority as a whole because on average our grades are so high. For reference, the NPC sorority with the lowest grades last spring had an average GPA of 3.31.

Plus we have a deferred recruitment here (not sure about Butler), so KKG has to look at college grades, which tend to be lower than high school ones, especially after your first semester. Either way, a 2.9 wouldn't get you cut automatically from KKG before they were kicked off and probably won't for the colony too. I imagine they'll pick the colony based on personality (and tbh money), and just make sure the average GPA is good enough.

Next year, KKG won't have much of a choice with cutting for grades btw because they need 3 years of recruitment data before PHA lets them cut more than 10% of PNMs each round. ZTA is in the same boat, as is any sorority that hasn't recruited well the last 3 years.

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#9  by: how's it going?   
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Hey nervous, keep us posted on the coach and if you think it helped - interested to know.

By: how's it going?
by: nervousJan 13, 2018 9:26:33 AM

we met the beginning of this week, and she set me up with 7 OSU recent alums to meet and get rec. letters from, and they all turned those in. Not sure yet, but it seems to be going really well. She had me do a values exercise to help me understand what to really look for in a chapter because they all seem so similar and gave me a couple good questions to ask. I'll call her tonight after I turn in my list.

I know the chapters really get to decide, so I'll be curious to see if I've represented myself well and if there's mutual interest. I'll post tonight who I put on my list

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by: ^Jan 13, 2018 10:28:41 AM

Really glad she had you do a value exercise. I was worried most of what she'd tell you was what to say in response to certain questions, like a script or something.

Just a heads up, it may have been too late to submit rec letters for some of those chapters since some have a deadline. I wouldn't worry about it though if you feel more comfortable in recruitment now.

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#10  by: OP    
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If your recruitment coach thinks you can overcome bad grades with recommendations and practicing conversation skills with her, your mom has been duped.

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