If Fiji is gone, heres how ranks would look.
by: Theoretical
Top 5 would go from SAE KS PKA Fiji TKE to...
Top 5
SAE KS Pike TKE ATO
These would be the 5 best fraternities, purely because all 5 already run the social scene here, all have super nice houses, and all have good guys and numbers. SX is going to Rage about not being higher but this is how it will be.
Lower Top
SX Beta
These 2 throw good joints and SX have good house parties but they aren't on the above 5's level socially. Numbers wise Beta does well but SX seems to struggle. Both have cool guys and good houses too. Not bad choices at all.
3 fraternities that could hop into the top 8
OX PKP DX
These 3 have good houses cool guys and good house parties to make some noise and move up in Fijis absence.
Honorable mentions
SNu PDT KA SPE ChiPhi
SN PDT SPE all have policies against throwing house parties but all 3 have good houses and really cool guys. KA has a bad house and their numbers are super small, other than that they easily have the coolest guys and best pull. ChiPhi has an amazing house and good parties, cool guys too. Their numbers are down, otherwise they could move up.
Commentby: Ok
Ok i see your argument, but if you look at where guys want to go during rush then its a no-brainer.
Beta Pike KS and TKE all gave 25+ bids (beta gave the least), and other than Beta KS was the only other group to get at least 20 guys. That tells you something, especially if you have the other 3 in the top 5 without Beta.
Also even though Beta isnt top 10 in house parties they have better pull and off campus events than everyone, minus SAE, PKA and MAYBE KS. People like to call beta g@¥ and soft and rip on them, because their house is great and they continue to have success.
If Fiji isn't suspended maybe ATO is top 5, maybe not. I guess it depends on who you ask, but in my opinion SAE PKA KS BTP ATO are the top 5.
If they arent then Fiji is still maybe top 5, idk after this but probably.
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by: Facts
Agree If this Fiji situation shows us anything blanket bidding and large pledge classes of guys who have not been vetted can backfire.
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by: Ok but
How do we gauge quality?? Thats literally impossible, unless youre able to interview EVERY SINGLE PLEDGE from EVERY SINGLE FRATERNITY, then give an in depth analysis of everyone and their backgrounds.
Fraternities with less numbers like to use quality and selectiveness as an excuse for why other people got more numbers. In reality they just couldnt hang, im looking at you SX, ATO and PKA...
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by: Ok
So every pledge in rush, rushed your fraternity? So you can provide an in depth analysis of everyone who rushed? Oh no you can't. Everyone has some weirdo's and everyone has some cool guys in the top 8.
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#5by: Hahaha
Not everyone has some weirdos and some have many more than others. The blanket bidders fill their classes with people who are going through rush and don't know anything about any of the houses. The top fraternities have strong summer rush programs and are more selective about bids. Most pledges in top fraternities have multiple bids.
by: You sure?
SX and ATO keep numbers down but they for sure have a lot of weird kids. Just because numbers are down doesn't mean they dont have weird kids.
Fraternities like BTP KS PKA SAE have good numbers and guys. They have some weird kids too but they manage to get numbers as well as quality. Groups like Fiji and TKE just hand random bids but thats it honestly.
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by: Yep
Fraternities with the least weirdos: SAE, PKA, KA, ATO, SX. Facts. Anyone who downvotes is not a member. There was a post about this a while back and this was the consensus. Of course KS runs this so expecting lots of downvotes.
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by: fax machine
Fr Beta has better social connections, better athletics, and better pull than ATO. Just because they don’t invite hundreds of randos into their house for their events doesn’t mean ATO’s better
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