legitimate fraternity rankings post rush ii

ADPhi is pretty much the undisputed top fraternity. They pulled a smaller class (~19 when you count the under the table kids) but they always do that--only gave out 26 bids. There are only like 30 really cool freshmen and they got most of them. This is the first adphi year that they basically took no "fillers", which for a frat that usually has mutliple fillers is a big deal. They have the best spring schedule (slip and slide, lei) and the compound and are the only top frat in no trouble. I don't see how you can argue this.

Dsig has got to be next. They got a big class and a lot of quality. People like to attack them but they have now had two very solid rushes in a row, and have shown that they are great at the big EDM type parties. Dsig still doesn't get the respect it deserves, and is right up there with a fully recovered adphi now.

So now we have KA and Snu, the two top tier frats who have gotten in serious trouble. I think Snu is in a much more dire situation than KA long-term. I mean yes right now KA is suspended, lost a lot of kids they want during rush, and clearly fell off. BUT they're not a dying frat--just a weakened one. Snu is a dying frat--pulled a very very weird class (youd think they were in like sig chi if you met them) and have seen quality decline for four years in a row now. They can't really even party.

Pike has continually lingered behind these four, and while they haven't gotten better, snu has gotten enough worse that pike is on their level MAYBE

SAE needs to get a grip...this is actually a little sad. SAE once again gave bids to everyone who came through the door...around all of the kids they just got were praying they wouldn't get a bid so they could be snapped elsewhere.

I'm a rush chair for a fraternity -- I had to explain to a crying freshman last week that we couldn't offer him a snap bid because SAE had given him a bid. He pleaded with me that he hadn't shown up to any events after their open house, but there was nothing that could be done. The kid is now pledging SAE because he didn't have a choice.

Pretty sure the 'DTD troll' is just SigEp trying to divert attention away from their outrageous placement in the OP

Explain putting SAE and AEPi that high. They didn't cross rush with a single frat listed above. Also, SigEp had a great rush but didn't really steal too many kids from ATO or PiKapp. Bottom line: nothing has changed. Get out of here SAE and/or AEPi, just because you rigged the voting system on here doesn't mean all of Duke is going to agree with you.

SAE taking at least one kid from SigEp is a simple fact

thanks sigep

The DTD vs. SAE quarrel is so pointless and stupid. Just be happy with your pledge classes and try to do the best you can with parties, mixers, etc. You both pulled almost the same amount of pledges (SAE 22 DTD 21), mix with similar sororities, have similar themed parties, etc.

Not lying, SAE is coming up strong, so stop dipping on them. DTD has tried to run yak and greekrank for the past 3 days to try and secure themselves above AEPi, SAE, SigChi, and even ATO at points. You guys are nice, but stop trying to get aggressive about the rankings...it is what it is, and clearly people are agreeing above.

Wtf is up with dtd's obsession with sae, you realize that both of you are considered like the same level of irrelevant fraternity

SAE beat DTD by like 20 in basketball as well as Pikapp Seniors so....

These are the only rankings that make any semblance of sense. Maybe put DTD on level with SAE and AEPi, and possibly downgrade ATO and Sigep below Pikeapp.