pnms be open minded

Actually, it's about sisterhood, getting involved, and finding a group of wonderful people who support your vision for the next 4 years. Many times PNMs get blinded by the glam of Rush, the junk written on this page, or the "supposed (not true) importance" of tiers. Contrary to your post, EVERY SINGLE Greek Chapter at FSU has amazing girls....every single solitary one. EACH Pan-CHAPTER has sisters involved in all facets of FSU extracurriculars, they ALL do amazing community service and they ALL provide an incredible support system for their sisters. Rather then name-call, belittle the process, or toss out negativity on Pref-Day, focus on the positive. Greek Life might not have been a positive experience for you, but for thousands of young women at FSU, it's truly an amazing experience.

Awwwe, spoken like a true cult follower... the process is biased and unrealistic and deep down somewhere you know it... sure each and every single chapter of every sorority in every school has sweet, genuine, selfless, altruistic, unconditionally supportive girls... some many more than others... that's a fact... BUT forcing a flawed process on naive girls desperately trying to fit in and feel accepted and loved is shameful... begging for their fragile egos to submit to settling.. just an embarrassment on you... So in essence, what you're also saying is if a girl doesn't get a bid than she cannot and is not worthy of a group of like minded, driven supportive women (and men)... Pan Hell enic IS NOT THE END ALL BE ALL... just admit that... BTW, I was in a sorority there, but clearly things are wayyy different now... so sad

Or it's about realizing that there are all types of women in every sorority, and you'll find your people if you give it a chance. And realizing that all sororities participate in the same events - you'll still get to do Dance Marathon, Homecoming, formals, football blocks, themed socials, and sisterhood retreats.

Realist, you are spot on. Greek life is good for some, but NOT for everyone like what PH tries to make you believe. They claim that it is Mutual Selection, which is complete Bull sh it. If it was, you would not keep getting choices 15-17 back (the ones that you voted were your least faves).

They will tell you just give it a chance. Spend $5000 per year to go find sisterhood in a group that YOU said you did not feel a connection in. Is that MUTUAL?

If you get your choice, accept. Otherwise go enjoy the other hundreds of clubs that YOU choose to be a part of.

Believe me, you will find ways to do sports, clubs, PHILANTHROPY, homecoming, football games, and everything else that PH tries to make you feel are exclusive benefits of Greek Life.

Oh, and if it is perfect for everyone, why do almost 1 in 3 go inactive by the time they graduate?

To [Umm]: Thank you for the excellent in-depth advice (sarcasm in case you couldn't tell). I would expect nothing else from someone with the nickname of "Umm".

By senior year most girls are over this nonsense and dread rush

It looks like realist wasn't hurt by the process that she actually enjoyed it in her time, just presenting other ways to have fun if the feelings don't go both ways.

And really, are you seriously "heartbroken" over these comments?"

Time to thicken that skin up girly!

Heartbroken are the PNMs that put their heart and soul into this, and then find true disappointment all the way through bid day.

"I'm a Guy", I think you missed the point that REALIST was making. It looks like REALIST was in a sorority and enjoyed the experience, but is stating that if you are a woman going through Rush, that it is OK that you decide that you do not have to go through the process.

I see the point being made -- NPC calls it Mutual Selection. Judging by the two different words, Mutual and Selection, both parties have to agree to continue moving forward in the process. I know factually that girls will get their lowest selections (14, 15, 16, 17) back on their list. How is this Mutual Selection?

The TRUTH is that Greek life is a fit for some but not for all. So stop trying to convince someone that the only option is to give it a chance; that spending $5k - $7k per year is a wise decision when you have clearly decided that there is not a "fit."

Just go join one or more of the other hundreds of inclusive clubs that are offered by our beautiful school.

The only reason they do rush this way is to penalize the stronger chapters for being good!
It really is bs
You should have to visit all maybe 1 or 2 times then only the ones you want. If u don't get in then you don't

Would you accept a bid from your 14th pick? How about your 15th? 16th? 17th? If so, then I say Wow! You really are desperate.

People will make comparisons every day in order to put things in perspective. Not all situations are equivalent, but it helps to offer a different way to view a situation.

2000+ girls will go through Rush. 1500 will accept a bid. 30% of those will not continue with sisterhood through their senior year (approximately 450).

That leaves us with 1050, approximately 50% of those that started as PNM.

50% success rate -- sounds like marriage.