first day cuts

Is there any actually decent reasoning for holding rerushing against someone? I feel like the sororities are saying that someone can’t change over the course of a year, and hold people at fault for actually trying something out the year before. And then you mention an exception...why make one if you won’t make that type of exception for others? Doesn’t that seem...a bit off?!?

Sororities want to accept more people than they have space for and they have especially little space for sophomores to begin with. People who are rerushing just have a big stigma that they are rushing not for the sisterhood, but for the popularity. Sororities want people who aren't pretentious or think they're too good for other chapters on this campus. You may have changed, but there is no way to tell from a 15 minute conversation, and you're competing against tons of girls with clean reputations that the sisters like just as much as, if not more than, they like you. Also, I mentioned an exception, which was a very unique situation for transparency purposes, because it does happen from time to time. There is just a stigma about being a social climber that one way or another must be overcome. Other sororities may be more open to people rushing again idk, but if you really aren't a social climber just rerush and be happy with whatever sorority accepts you instead of complaining about the process :)

not the person you were replying to but @advice that feels pretty mean and definitely is drawing a lot of assumptions about why people choose to re-rush. Good to know that’s the attitude that the upper sororities have torwads people re-rushing in the future.

Gamma Phi and Alpha Omicron Pi BARELY cut anyone during recruitment. It’s not that they like your personality etc, they like that you’re a living, human being that can fill their quota. It’s a harsh truth a lot of girls won’t want to hear, but it’s true. They literally are the only sororities with informal recruitment just So they can hit quota.

agreed @they actually want you??? all these condescending posts saying that people should be grateful that someone wanted them and that not taking gphi and aopi bids proves they are a social climber... like sorry that I want a sorority to pay the least bit attention to me and my personality before giving me a bid. Gphi and aopi still judge their girls intensely during recruitment, they just want the numbers to maintain their charter. Not to mention gphi and aopi have high dues, massive turnover no houses, and controversy but yea anyone who rejects them are huge social climbers and dg/theta girls are the saints. sure. Whoever runs dg/theta's recruitment/reputation campaign is doing overtime tonight

if you haven’t been in a house you literally know nothing about them... gphi and aopi really care about their sisterhood, we rank the sisters that we care about, drop sisters who wouldn’t fit in, and put a lot of thought in to how we recruit and who we recruit.
just because we don’t judge the same things that the sororities who have been on campus the longest judge, like Instagram feeds or who your parents are or where you went to high school or what zip code you’re from, doesn’t mean we don’t recruit exactly who we want to be in the sorority. we look at how passionate people are about mental health and wellness, how much women actually care about building up other women, what your actual dreams and goals and aspirations are. we seek diversity in passions and interests in addition to body types and skin colours and where you’re from, which a lot of you don’t care about.
we hate talking to people who we can tell don’t want to be there and it’s a slap in the face to know that there are women who think they’re too good to be part of our sisterhood.
if that’s your attitude, we don’t want you here either, and in fact we probably dropped you tonight.

I’ve been in multiple of the sorority houses, just to address your first point.

I have to give AOPI and Gamma Phi a shoutout for trying to reverse what was said in this post. I get it, you’re trying to meet quota and this negativity is going to affect turnout. It’s extremely interesting to me that most of the likes/dislikes on these posts reversed tonight when the girls from the sorority found out about them.

Also, I have literally never heard of anyone being cut from either of those sororities. I appreciate the fact that most people aren’t entirely cut from recruitment because of it, but still...let’s acknowledge the truth here.

Also, figured I should acknowledge this...you didn’t cut me, and you didn’t cut any of my friends.

It’s extremely difficult to judge someone on anything in the short amount of time that you have during rush. I do appreciate the bottom tiers being more inclusive but I also am acknowledging the quota that they need to fill (diversity naturally comes as a result of this).

maybe we didn’t cut you the first night because we do acknowledge that it takes more than one 15 minute conversation to get to know someone. we give people second chances and try to meet women multiple times. but after development and preference night, we really think about what the women that we have gotten to know stand for. if you don’t care about things like inclusivity, diversity, and truly building up and supporting other women then we don’t ask you to come back or extend you a bid. so congrats if you weren’t “cut” from us! that means you were able to mask your nastiest for long enough, or are a senior who did go through recruitment when weren’t allowed to make the cuts we are now. congrats to that, you’re graduating and are basically irrelevant to these women’s next 3 years in the chapter.

also, lol, being “in” a house doesn’t mean physically being in one it means being a member of one. nice try, try some reading comprehension next time if you’re going to try to be nasty and elitist.

damn ive seen so many amazing people lose their personality because of rush and it stays that way. a lot of them become cookie cutter replicas of each other

yup, no way DG and Theta would have taken any bids from anyone they consider below them.

You can rerush all you want. You may even luck out and get a bid, which happens from time to time.
You aren't considered a social climber for liking dg/theta more than other chapters. Pretty much every single girl likes dg/theta the most and tries to get into them. What makes people see you as a social climber is choosing no sisterhood instead of the sisterhoods that actually wanted you back. I know some dg/theta girls who, I also guess never would've taken a bid from the bottom two chapters. I also know some dg/theta girls who I know would have accepted that bid, others who disaffiliated with the chapter and wished they joined other lower ranked chapters, and some who have best friends in the bottom houses. You'll never know what they would have decided, because they were never forced to chose between no sorority and a sorority they didn't like that much.
If you are in a position of making that decision, I just urge you to reflect on why you want to be in a sorority. The chapters without houses work to put together tons of sisterhood events and bond with their sisters. I don't know AOPi that well, but a ton of GPhi girls I know are super, duper close. To me that proves that if you want sisterhood on this campus, regardless of whether your chapter has a house, you will be able to find a home with girls who like you and want to be your friend. If you want the dg/theta letters, good luck with sophomore rush- maybe you will pull it off

I’m sorry, this reasoning is horrible. You’re a social climber because you don’t want a sorority that wouldn’t have provided you with as strong of a sense of sisterhood. As aforementioned, they don’t have houses aka don’t even have a central place where the girls can connect on a daily basis and Omicron Pi is known to have internal problems. I have close friends in Gamma Phi who have told me about internal bullying going on. Moreover, what if someone actually like (I know, this is really shocking) has a strong connection to a chapter’s philanthropic cause?

I don’t know about you, but I’m all about female empowerment and not taking an option because it is “something.” Why settle? This is basically like telling someone to date ANY GUY/GIRL instead of someone that makes you genuinely happy. I’m sure you have some standards when it comes to dating. Why do I, as an individual, have to be defined as a social climber if I realize something would have not made me happy personally? Why do I have to be defined as a social climber if I, in regard to the dating metaphor, am rejecting a person I genuinely would not be happy with?

Alright, well then extending that dating metaphor, why is it so outrageous to think that the sorority "the guy in this scenario" who rejected you the first time has any degree of obligation to consider you again? He went out on a date with you. Didn't like it. Maybe did like it but likes other girls more? HE isn't a bad person for not dating you now and also not dating you ever. You aren't entitled to any degree of consideration by any potential mate. Maybe this guy only likes super hot, rich, wealthy girls. Why is he obligated in this scenario to pay any attention to you ever?

And if you want to be single forever, no one is stopping you. I'm just advocating that maybe you consider paying attention to some other guys who may have bad reputations but a lot to offer instead of just being heartbroken over the guy who flat out rejected you forever. If you want to be single forever, that's fine. What makes you a social climber is just begging the original hot top tier guy to take you back and getting all upset when he says no.

Well, I would hope if the guy in this scenario agreed to date me again and even let me go through a second date that he wouldn’t automatically cut me based on assumptions. If the sororities are going to act this petty, they shouldnt even let people rush again. But, wait! That’s not allowed. Every girl per national standards is allowed to rush the next year. Moreover, at other schools, rerushing successfully definitely isn’t as impossible as it seems to be here. But this is beyond the point...let me continue:

Most of the spots are predetermined before rush anyway. Why go on a date originally if you know that you’re definitely taking the other girl? The dating metaphor doesn’t successfully extend to this situation because you’d reject her originally, save her time, and NOT break the hearts of tons of girls by leading them on like our rush process does. The sororities should be more transparent about their standards.

Also, if someone rejected me once based on a five minute conversation and I’m going on a date with another different person the next year (aka, a different girl in the sorority), I would argue that the first date shouldn’t be held against you. You really aren’t ever “dating the same person again.” This methodology implies that every girl in the sorority has the same exact opinions. Even if a girl didn’t like you one year, that 100% does not mean the people you talk to this year also will not like you.

However, the literally holds it against you for eternity if you have one unlucky date out of many. And maybe it wasn’t even unlucky. Maybe you just didn’t have the connections and there was no way to change their mind once you walked in.

I know you very clearly cannot take a hint and do not understand the recruitment process (lol it’s not like one girl determines your faith based on a 15 min round) but HES JUST NOT THAT INTO YOU! You aren’t his type and never will be.
If that’s the only man you’re interested in, enjoy being single :)

try decaf next time gphi

I know how long the “bottom sororities” have been on campus, but it’s clear that this does lead to major disparities. I really do feel for GPHI and AOPI, but it’s the truth. Until you have houses, you’ll keep having meetings in random places like Lerner and will never be able to achieve as strong of a sense of sisterhood. You’ll never mix with any of the decently ranked frats either. It absolutely sucks, and I’m not trying to sound like a social climber, I’m just acknowledging that there are inherent disparities that will be extremely difficult for any of those two sororities to overcome by the time any new members graduate. Also, in regard to discrimination etc...can we think back to why tons of AOPI members dropped a few years back?

So your reasoning is that these higher dues cover people not being fined...what if someone is actually committed, shows up all the time, and never would be fined? Seems illogical to me. Sure, there are formals etc included...what if someone were to not even go to these since they aren’t required? Also, merch is nice, but it’s technically not required either (maybe for a few events, but this doesn’t make up for hundreds of dollars). In my opinion, it seems like people are paying more to build up these chapters than they are to cover these “hidden fees,” as you’re trying to say,” since none of these things are technically required (though I’ll acknowledge most will partake). Why should someone have to pay more in advance to cover the cost of a formal they could skip?

I think the girls going through rush deserve the truth, which is why I’m posting this. All the best to these sororities, but I really wish you wouldn’t manipulate your image this much and perpetuate lies.

Wow. @nicetry that is one of the nastiest things I’ve ever read. We don’t take people who think like that. In fact, we’ve had quite a few drops because... we just don’t want that negativity. We want to build women up, not tear them down. And that’s the mission of panhell— I know which sorority you’re writing this from. It’s quite apparent. I’ve had friends that joined dg and theta and left me because I am ranked “below” them. This is exactly that mentality. It’s sad. All the best with rush. Oh and, maybe consider getting a confidence boost while you’re at it? The fact that y’all are so concerned with rank speaks volumes. K. Thanks.

This is absolutely horrible, dg/theta. Why do you feel the need to tear down AOII and GPhi like a bunch of high school bullies? I have to wonder if you might actually feel threatened...because this is one hell of a teardown campaign you people are going on. Why try so hard otherwise? Hopefully the decent people going through recruitment will see just how terrible you are.

“I’m not a social climber” but you’ll never mix with the highest rank frats! Lol you have social climber tatooed on your forehead in big font if you’re joining a sorority to mix with frats...

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can people even get bids before 10 am

During bid promising last year they sure can.