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What is with these cuts

by: Why?

As an alum, rush nowadays is nothing like it used to be; it use to be fun now all I’ve heard is how upsetting and wrong it has become.

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#1  by: @Why   
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Well Hag, why don't you put down that glass of chilled rose remember the "good old days" where houses like DDD and Pi Phi would keep inviting back huge numbers of girls each round (including pref) who they had NO INTENTION of ever extending a bid, just so it seemed they were being more exclusive. Those girls would then get cut on bid day, which was incredibly brutal. Those same girls could have been cut earlier and spent time getting to know houses that they (the PNM) cut earlier because they felt they had a real chance at DDD/Pi Phi/Chi O/Zeta, etc.

My mom and my aunt (who are both alumna of one of the "top" houses) told me about how brutal it was, and how their house would have separate lists with the girls they actually wanted, and the "party filler" girls. That sort of thing made the whole system more elitist and much more cruel (though obviously, you seem to think that was a better way of doing things).

The problem now, I think, is these girls who are so self-absorbed that they can't get over social influencing, etc.

The new system (well, not so new anymore) allows more options for girls to get involved in Greek life. If a girl is so obsessed with just one or two houses (i.e., KKG Chi) that she feels life is over if she does not receive a bid, that young lady has many more problems than sorority recruitment.

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by: Why? Aug 16, 2022 9:58:26 AM

I’m literally 25, not a hag. Recruitment was better when I rushed. Now with this first-round video cut, it’s sad to see girls who aren’t even given a chance to meet all the houses before getting cut. How they did things, this year is NOT ok. Each year it’s getting worse and worse. I can’t imagine how it will be in 5 to 10 years.

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by: Alum w/o chilled RoseAug 16, 2022 10:01:02 AM

I wouldn't have said it like this, but concisely, PNMs need to be cut EARLY by the houses that have no intention of pledging them. It was CRUEL in the "old days" to drag it out, and those poor PNMs never knew until right before Rush was over that they never had a chance. UA needs more houses and certain houses need to cut Day 1. PNMs in this day and age:: your IG/TikTok follower count is not as important as you want it to be. The cuts hurt, I know! but it is nothing like the heartache of going all the way to bid day with a lie.

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by: AlsoAug 16, 2022 12:36:18 PM

Know what else was so wrong on so many levels? Recruitment 2020. Every single round was done online via zoom. Nobody stepped foot inside any of the houses except on bid day where you had to go in groups of 10 to the house you received a bid to.
Point is…it is what it is. Get over it!

Do you think it felt good to be cut in 2020 when the only way girls could get to know you was over a little zoom meeting? Who the heck knows if anyone landed where they should have?

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#2  by: Rose   
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Do you think it would be better in the future if they can put a cap on how many can register for recruitment?
The pledge classes are sooo big and it seems like rush is crazy this year with all the cuts- even the “lower” tier sororities and making pretty big cuts this last round.

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by: too bigAug 16, 2022 2:05:06 PM

Panhellenic is prevented from capping recruitment by NPC rules. The school can cap it though, some schools do by GPA, but that's not fair. Sororities are social organizations, not academic honor societies, and having a GPA that is good enough to get into the school should be enough to qualify for sorority membership. There are amazing girls who could contribute a lot to a house without having a 4.0.

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by: agreeAug 20, 2022 11:59:02 AM

@too big-Agree- if grades are good enough to get in the school they should be good enough to go through rush! There are so many girls that would be a great addition that can't even rush! Also not fair for the people that have learning disabilities. If the houses are promoting volunteer and philanthropies then the grades should not matter-Good enough for admissions then good enough for rush!

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#3  by: Old Hag   
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I am an old hag, and I think the U of A should go to a deferred recruitment system so freshman and get acclimated to school and get a front row seat to see what the greek system is really like. They might decide they are ok without, and see first hand the true character behind a house-just like who ever would call an older greek alumni a"hag". Such a shame to be so disrespectful of the people who have come before you to make the greek system what it is today.

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by: pros and consAug 16, 2022 3:41:10 PM

I think spring recruitment is a good idea in theory. that way PNMs can meet girls from all of the chapters themselves instead of relying on what they see on here. however, Baylor and. SMU do spring rush, and dirty rushing is rampant at both of those schools because the sororities have even more time to decide who they want and don’t want.

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by: No Spring RushAug 16, 2022 4:20:06 PM

I don't think Spring recruitment is a good idea for Arkansas. It just delays the inevitable. The older, more established houses already have their bid list finished with the back-up list done by the fall semester. The same girls that would be given bids in the fall recruitment will be the same girls given bids in the spring recruitment.

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#4  by: I'm old   
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I am an old hag too. And rush has always been stressful. It is not anymore stressful now than it was before. Hearts were broken and tears were shed and girls would be just as devastated when they were cut. It's the same now, but the two big differences now are the entitlement and social media. Entitlement in that every single pnm coming in has been raised that she is amazing and wonderful and a real top girl. So very very accomplished. That's great, well done. But then they come here, a large Southern university, and the reality is that 90% of the other girls are amazing and wonderful and real top girls too. All are very very accomplished. So all of a sudden, so many of these girls are not as successful as they are used to being when in this new pool of other very successful people, and they are not handling it well, but instead acting entitled to everything still going the way they want. Social media comes into play because now these entitled girls have multiple means to vent their outrage at not being so special anymore. And what they can only come up with, is that it's certainly not them, because they are a real top girl. There's obviously something wrong with the system. The system is wrong! And bad! That is the only explanation for them in their entitled world. It's not going to get easier for any of them until they settle down into the reality that, while they have some exceptional qualities, there is always someone else just as good, or better.

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by: What the Aug 16, 2022 4:27:32 PM

You are not a hag that person that’s saying that is just plain mean like who calls someone who’s not a teenager a hag like flat out rude😭

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by: I'm Old, too!!Aug 16, 2022 7:25:58 PM

There has not been a truer post on here!! THIS 100%!!

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#5  by: Not true   
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There weren’t any bigger cuts than any other year. In fact 95% of the girls got bids this year.

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#6  by: ^^^   
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This!! Lots of girls, lots of bids!! Now everyone complaining about the number of cuts will start complaining that the pledge classes are too big.

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#7  by: 4   
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Until Panelnic creates some rules and boundaries. Great girls with no connections have NO CHaNCE.
Every house wants to recruit the great girls from their HS and their friends.
If there’s this many girls wanting to RUSh they should have a Fall and Spring PC or add more sorority houses.
A sorority is supposed to bring women together and help us make new friends and encourage us to be the best we can be.

It’s very disappointing that there’s a lot of great girls that don’t stand a chance bc they are not from the same zip code, HS or friend group.

By: 4
by: Stop whiningAug 20, 2022 1:10:32 PM

You obviously are new to this with no history of Greek membership in your family or you would know better than to spout such ridiculousness. Sorority chapters get to choose who they want and that is absolutely explicit in NPC recruiting rules. No chapter has to take anyone for any reason and panhellenic is never going to set rules and boundaries regulating sororities' membership selection. This is not high school, not a sign up sheet, and it's by invitation only. Truly great girls make friends and are popular no matter what. If you are a great girl then go be one. Nothing's stopping you, including what letters you wear or not.

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by: to @4Aug 20, 2022 1:12:56 PM

Read what @I'm old wrote. THis is exactly the type of entitlement she's addressing. You are a great girl. Or your daughter is, more like it. Read it.

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by: SorryAug 20, 2022 1:20:47 PM

There are a lot of clubs and organizations that have open membership! A Sorority is not one of those. They choose their members. Having said that, the system here places a very large percentage of girls wanting to join!

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