what vq means to you
by: helpfulUARK and Ole Miss are the only schools left doing VQ which means houses with higher retention will take less than lower retention houses. So Kappa or ChiO might take 100 but a lower house will take 160 with the thinking that no pnm that gets Kappa or ChiO is gonna drop (yes, I know some do but in general) but maybe 60 from a lower house will be disappointed and not show up bid day or drop before initiation. So, at the end there are equal numbers of girls in each house. That’s why the argument top houses have poor sisterhoods is hogwash because they essentially hand pick whoever they want. The lower houses also have pnms they really want but also have to take some other pnms to meet their 160. So maybe the pnm has low grades, no connections (this is overused as an excuse since unless you live under a rock someone’s sister’s cousin’s best friend from church’s aunt’s next door neighbor should know something about you), bad reputation, or socially awkward. This makes is harder to be as cohesive if you are a lower tier house. Too many different kinds of girls. Lower tier houses have to be more strategic in who they recruit but they will end up with girls they didn’t really want either but everyone gets a bid pretty much. Imo this also keeps tiers intact instead of dividing the number of pnms by the number of houses to get quota thus keeping it equal. So there you have it.
#1 by: agree except
The no connections part you’re talking about isn’t really true. Well, it is, but not in how sororities look at you. Having connections means you know girls in the house, not that some random family member knows you. This is why girls from say the North or California have a hard time because they most likely don’t know anyone in a sorority at Arkansas and don’t have anyone pulling for them.
Comment#4 by: TERMS
If we could just stop calling houses upper or lower or using the term tier altogether it would really help things out, especially people who are knowledgeable about how recruitment actually works and post on here. These terms imply that the girls in the houses are lower or upper human beings and that there is a caste system. We can say larger houses or more established houses or higher retaining houses or any number of terms that are accurate and not so divisive or rude.
by: To eyerollAug 12, 2019 9:50:41 AM
Apparently you are not associated w a group who is labeled such.
Perhaps you are one of the groups who feels it is ok to tell some of these girls how they should feel and act?
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by: RelievedAug 12, 2019 10:10:19 AM
Recruitment is now cancelled. Everyone is equal so houses will be assigned randomly. Your gpa is irrelevant as that is a ranking. All houses will be known as Gamma Gamma Gamma to not offend. DG has graciously allowed to share their house as the only Greek house so everyone has the same house.
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by: WhyAug 12, 2019 10:20:40 AM
You are demonstrating what goes wrong in Greek life. If you are an alum- you may be the type who would rip their daughter out of school if recruitment doesn’t go your way.
It is not a measurement of the quality of human beings, women, in the houses. Eye roll all you want.
No one is asking for participation trophies. Just to be not referred to as less. That too much for you?
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by: TipsAug 12, 2019 10:24:10 AM
@eye roll: Actually, my high school does not have class ranks nor a valedictorian because it is deemed unnecessary and divisive. The grades and accomplishments that the students earn speak for themselves to college admissions and the wider community. If a student has a 4.0 and outstanding accomplishments, or if they are kind, hard working and generous and earned the respect of their faculty and peers, any label someone would give them is superfluous and irrelevant. Kids from my school get into Ivy Leagues, large schools, small schools, and all branches of the US military academies without being ranked or bestowed with a "prize." No, ranks don't and shouldn't apply to everything. Enlightened people understand this, insecure people with their heads up their asses don't.
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by: RealityAug 12, 2019 11:32:24 AM
Unfortunately higher retention will just mean higher tier and lower retention mean lower tiers. Pnms just need to realize that just by going through the recruitment process - resumes, recs, photos and having to be in a continual “job” interview for a week straight they are already successful. Line up a pic of all the pnms on bid day and there is no way you could pick who ended up in what house. All are great!
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by: smhAug 12, 2019 12:21:24 PM
by: ^Aug 12, 2019 1:26:21 PM
It's offensive to have your house called bottom. It's pretentious to call your own house top. You are being rude when you do that, and calling it out is not by any means being a 'snowflake.'
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by: teacherAug 12, 2019 1:38:56 PM
Agree about calling a house out as bottom but honestly even kids know a participation ribbon means you didn’t place in the top.
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by: ???Aug 12, 2019 12:10:44 PM
by: nopeAug 12, 2019 12:11:29 PM
#6 by: helpful again
OMG I’m the OP and came back on here to this! I specifically did not name any “lower” tier house for this very reason so as not to stigmatize them and I called them “lower” not “bottom” because we don’t have “bottom” chapters. My whole point which was missed was we should do away with variable quota because it helps keep “top” houses top. You can’t have a discussion about helping “lower” houses rise if you aren’t allowed to say the word. I’m not even in a “top” or “lower” houses. I’m in a “middle” gasp house. And I’m not offended if you call it that. Everyone go back to work week and let this go!
by: MemberAug 12, 2019 9:15:49 PM
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by: eye rollAug 12, 2019 9:43:26 AM
Everything has ranks - football teams, restaurants, schools. Did your school not have class ranks or was everyone valedictorian and got a prize? It has absolutely nothing to do with the quality of the girl. It’s just a ranking.
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