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by: Curious

Can anyone tell me what quota was? I am just curious. Thx!

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#11  by: My thoughts   
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Personally I think the whole rec letter thing is antiquated and stupid.

Like another poster said, the vast majority of rec letters don't do any good anyway.

And even if they did, is it fair to penalize the PNM who just doesn't know any sorority alums?

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by: sameSep 13, 2016 9:46:47 PM

I agree.

I'm the first in my family to even go to college. I had zero recs and got in to what people on here would call a middle house.

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by: .....Sep 15, 2016 5:14:44 PM

If you went to high school, you know some sorority alumnae. If you're too lazy to ask around, that's your decision. Just don't blame the sororities for having their rules and traditions. If you think they're so stupid and antiquated, you probably wouldn't like sorority life either.

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by: ^^^^^^Sep 15, 2016 10:33:21 PM

THIS! Get recs or stop complaining.

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by: OPSep 16, 2016 10:36:35 AM

I was the one that posted I was the first in my family to go to college, and this reply is intended for the ones that responded to me.


You jerks are the only reason I wouldn't like a sorority. I never said recs were dumb, or useless. All I said was that I got into a decent sorority without one. You guys need to calm down and I sincerely hope I am not in your house because I would never want to be associated with girls who have such a closed mind. Yeah, recs can be very helpful. But you want to know what is even MORE accurate nowadays? Is looking at someone's social media yourself. That won't be some washed out version of the girl.

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by: @opSep 16, 2016 11:05:57 PM

If you didn't want to play by the rules, you didn't have to apply for recruitment. No one made you. But if you did want to be in a sorority you had to know that there were rules...

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#12  by: Here's the thing, though   
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I grew up in the suburbs and I had no problem getting rec letters.

But if you are from a small town, maybe very few of your mom's friends went to college at all, much less joined a sorority. Your high school teachers went to college, but they were probably not in a sorority. (Believe it or not, most college grads are not involved in Greek life. In fact many colleges, including the one my mother went to, don't have fraternities or sororities at all.)

It just seems to me that in this era of social media there are better and more accurate ways of finding out what a PNM is like, than to require letters from someone who may not even know the PNM at all.

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#13  by: Recs   
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An alum can write a long antiquated letter or simply fill out a form online and forward it to the chapter's Recruitment advisor. Social media is not the way to go, trust me. A recommendation also tells a chapter that this PNM is someone who could be a member in good standing. This means she would be less likely to have to drop due to grades, standards, or financials. I am not meaning to sound cold, but. Sorority relies on timely-paid dues (for 3 or 4 years) to function. My house has three options for recommendations: Highly Rwcommend, Recommend, and a No Rec. I don't HR unless I personally know the girl and family well. If I am relying on outside information (a friend's daughter I don't know but know that she has strong credentials or after speaking to a teacher or counselor, etc). A No Rec will result in a girl being cut after first round. An alum has learned something about her that she would not represent the house well AND most likely wouldn't be able to remain in the house due to reasons I listed above. Recs are important!

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by: I disagreeSep 16, 2016 10:53:18 PM

Too many sororities are missing out on fantastic girls because of the stupid rec letter thing-- which is not even supposed to be required.

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by: @aboveSep 16, 2016 11:17:22 PM

I don't know who told you that recs were not "supposed to be required." The sororities themselves decide whether or not to require recs (I think all of them do.) No one can tell sororities that they're not supposed to require recs as far as I know.

As for social media, people tell you to "clean up" your social media before you sign up for recruitment. Most girls I've looked at have just a few family pictures and their senior pictures on social media. If you have something disgusting, you can be dropped, but few girls do.

I'd suggest that you calm down about recs. It sounds like a rec was gotten for you and so you didn't need to put yourself out. My house will ask an alum for a rec if we want a girl and don't have one. Yes girls without recs get cut, but so do girls with low grades, girls with too avant garde looks, girls with bad reputations from their hometown, etc. Some of those are bound to actually be fantastic but they get cut. That's okay. Greek life isn't for everyone, fantastic or not.

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by: Wow.Sep 17, 2016 11:03:14 AM

I would NEVER categorize "not having recs" as a disqualification on the same level as "low grades," "too avant garde looks," or "bad reputations from their hometown."

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by: yepSep 17, 2016 4:36:33 PM

Not having a rec is not an automatic disqualification like a bad reputation. But if there are two similar girls and we don't know either, we'll keep the one with the rec and release the one without. Ya can't keep everyone...

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#14  by: IMHO   
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I had all of my recs in place long before rush began mainly because of my moms friends and neighbors. So I'm not sure what would have happened without one for the house I ended up in.
She has written a ton of recs over the years and told me that she has written some for friend of a friend--someone she didn't know well but stated so in the rec based strictly on grades,act and activities. She has however written many recs stating "I cannot recommend this girl!" She has heard that these type of recs carry more weight.
Basically her suggestion is to just get the recs. If they don't mean anything to one house they will mean everything to another. You may never know which house is which!

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by: DifferenceSep 18, 2016 9:17:50 PM

There is definitely a difference between "I can't recommend this girl because I don't know her" and I am giving her a NO Rec because she has a questionable reputation, etc. a NO Rec (in my house) is an automatic cut. If I don't personally know a PNM but I have reason to believe she is well-rounded, good grades and activities, I will recommend her but not highly recommend. I have written many recommendations. Others might disagree, but this is how I do it. My house just requires a recommendation to extend a bid.

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#15  by: ????   
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obiously it isn't a rule to have them because she is in a sorority without needing them. If she made a good enough impression to not need them, then that isn't her fault

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by: DifferenceSep 19, 2016 11:37:08 AM

What you girls need to understand is that if your house requires a rec (and this girl may have pledged one), to extend a bid then one was found for her. She may think she didn't have one, but she did. A lot goes on"behind the scenes" before and during recruitment to seek out Recs for these PNM.

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