off campus frats

Literally shouldn't be a question, absolutely Machi

They don't even compare... APES is way better.

Rush a real fraternity not an off campus one that would be lower middle tier of they were even on campus

Machi is previously top tier so they are better. Apes is getting better weirdly enough but no top tier frats will party with them yet.

This is a dumb question. Both are off campus. Both groups of good guys. Both have incredibly strong brotherhoods. You simply have to have a strong brotherhood to succeed off campus. Machi was already upper tier as Sigma Chi and have only dropped a little. Still do very well for themselves. Aepi was middle-tier before they got kicked off. However, as Apes without their old nationals dictating who they can give bids to, they have thrived and totally changed their image around. Excited to see what both these off campus fraternities can do in the future.

Machi was one of the best when they were on campus.. Now from what i heard they are very unorganized and don't have many brothers. Aepi was middle tier now as apes they've been doing much better. Id say they're around the same since machis kinda fallen off and apes is getting better .

the "at this point in time" is interesting. bc apes has been doing well but machis always been good in the past but haven't heard much of them lately.

Both are a social drinking club with no values to them so honestly neither exist "at this point in time". rush a real on campus fraternity and stop wasting your money.

You guys are all right. Don't waste your time with off campus fraternities who have cheap dues, smaller amount of brothers and haze. Rush sig EP! 3x the dues, no pledging, and 100 plus brothers! THat's where you will find true comraderie. Money=Brotherhood right?!