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Reposting this from another thread because its the smartest, most realistic post on Greek Rank. If you want the frat rundown, this is it. Clearly, within each tier, each house is different with their own personalities. But, the tiers are undisputable. Really we shouldn't be ranking by 1,2,3,4,etc... but within tiers because every house within a certain tier is different. Enjoy.

"To answer the poster, anyone posting rankings is biased in some way because they wouldn't spend their time on this site if they didn't care at all. As a result, it is very hard to find objectively true rankings. As a result, I think it is more reasonable to split the frats into three tiers because each frat attracts different guys AND girls, so it is unreasonable to rank them one by one. Different types of guys and girls prefer different frats within these tiers.

The tiers currently are pretty clear and agreeable. Obviously rankings can be argued within tiers, but anyone who disagrees with them is certainly biased or is unaware of the general perception of each frat (Alphabetical order within tiers):

First Tier (Most well-liked by girls, most well-liked by rushes, and have the most fun events)

AEPI, Kappa Sigma, SAE

Second Tier (Are very well-liked by specific groups of girls, do well enough in rush to fill their pledge classes and cut kids they don't want, and still have fun events)

ATO, KA, Sigma Chi, Sigma Nu, ZBT

Third Tier (Are either newer or have had enough specific struggles, such as bad or lack of housing, that causes them to have smaller pledge classes and to have less girl support and presence on campus; some still have a good brotherhood though and have potential to become more popular)

DTD, Fiji, LXA, Phi Psi, Pike, Phi Kappa"

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spot on

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this works if you're really generalizing and obviously in a perfect world there wouldn't be tiers at all but there is. And it's obvious to anyone on campus that...

AEPi and SAE are better than Kappa Sig
KA, Sigma Chi, and Sigma Nu are better than ATO and ZBT
FIJI is better than DTD, Phi Psi, and PIKE

Not trying to push an agenda for any house, it's just kind of known on campus based on how well-liked they are, how they've competed in rush, and quality of the boys

As a result, I'd say there are 6 "tiers" (alphabetical - could still argue some are better than others but they're close enough) with some having less than others:

AEPi and SAE
Kappa Sigma
KA, Sigma Chi, and Sigma Nu
ATO and ZBT
FIJI
DTD, Phi Psi, PIKE

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by: Perfect Example   

This is a perfect example of an unnecessary Greekrank post that is completely misleading.

SAE and AEPI are not "clearly" better than Kappa Sig. Plenty of top sorority girls think Kappa Sigs are the most fun and attractive guys or choose certain Kappa Sigs over guys in SAE or AEPI.

In addition, plenty of specific groups of sorority girls would say that they find members of ATO or ZBT more fun or attractive than KA's, Sig Chi's, or Sig Nu's. Just look at how filled ZBT's tailgates were this year compared to KA's; not a knock on KA because MOST girls probably do find the guys better at KA, but there are definitely people on campus that do not find them "obviously" better than ZBT. Furthermore, many guys choose to rush ZBT whose first choice is AEPI or KSig, not because they feel they have a better chance with ZBT than KA or Sig Chi, but rather because they think its a better frat and it is not "obvious" enough that they are on different levels with girls.

And it is certainly not "obvious to anyone on campus" that Fiji is better than DTD, Phi, Psi, and PIKE. An argument can easily be made for any of them being best of the third tier.

However, to the posters point: You really don't see Phi Psi guys hooking up with the same level of girls as ATO guys, and you won't see ZBT's hooking up with the same level of girls as AEPI guys. Whereas, even if most girls find KA guys better than ZBT guys, it is definitely not a consensus that KA guys are better. Furthermore, you can't really make a reasonable argument that Sig Nu is better than KSig but you CAN make plenty of reasonable arguments for why they are better than Sig Chi, which is why they are the same tier.

You are trying to make divides that are completely pointless and misleading and you are only proving the poster's point.

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