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Poster Name:
they r dif

Poster Message:
yeah, they aren't on par with the big 3 at all, but they are also better than aphi and pi phi by enough to give them their own tier. they are just different, they kinda do their own thing. gphi/kappa/dg are all without a doubt top tier aphi and piphi are closer to axo, but they are middle that's why they are the only true upper middle house.