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ATO tends to hang on this site too much. The ranks saying they're top are more than like posted by ATOs. However, am I saying they're bottom? Of course not. They're a good upper middle tier fraternity. As far as your last questions, no their parties aren't good and they have average pull with girls. That's okay though because they're not a party fraternity. They thrive more in the on-campus involvement arena like Fiji and Farmhouse.